I’m trying to find the best entry into getting started with digital music (again)
Crap I don’t know what I want to do…
I am seriously thinking about buying a Mac Mini and trying this setup (Because I have used garage band before)
www.engadget.com/2005/02/0...ng-studio/
Or maybe I should by a more expensive Mac?
Or Maybe I should take a Linux or Windows root….
What do you all think?
Crap I don’t know what I want to do…
I am seriously thinking about buying a Mac Mini and trying this setup (Because I have used garage band before)
www.engadget.com/2005/02/0...ng-studio/
Or maybe I should by a more expensive Mac?
Or Maybe I should take a Linux or Windows root….
What do you all think?
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 11:34 AMIt would help to know what tasks you want to do. All 3 systems can be used for DAW's but depending what you want to do each would perform differently. -
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 2:48 PMeRic is right. Do you have a DAW in mind already? Is it Mac compatible? If so, I'd suggest a Mac simply for their staying power (from my understanding they tend to last much longer than the average PC). Mac also tends to use higher quality parts (including the built in audio). If you go PC/Linux, get a higher end machine (i.e. not dell or some POS system). I do not know anyone using a Linux box and you may have trouble getting support on it if needed...not sure, just a warning.
Regardless of system, you will want two hard drives (500+ each I'd say) and 2-4 gigs RAM to start. Do not bother w/ less than 2 or you'll be upgrading RAM really soon.
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 3:25 PMThanks guys… you have cleared some things up for me and I am most likely going to buy a Mac because my DAW of choice is garage band (why do I feel like this is a confession?)
If anyone could suggest a Linux DAW I would love to hear it!
Also since I am going in the Mac direction… what would be the next step up after garage band..
Cheers,
Dave
PS
Another confession… I dropped and broke my last Mac and had a lot of fun with it! -
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Tue, March 25, 2008 - 10:11 PMThis is just one guy's opinion (mine) and I really don't mind the shitstorm I may stir up but I have both a PC and a Mac and honestly, the Mac gives me half the grief that my PC does.....it kicks ass right out of the box. Upgradeable? NO. That is the downside. Conversely, have I done any REAL hardware upgrades to my PC beyond a USB 2.0 PCI card? NO. If I were to buy a new system, I would get a Mac (of course, I would do my homework and check hardware compatibilty and whatnot). This is mostly because I want to make music, NOT be a computer programmer. If you are a tinkerer and are willing to go thru the motions of optimizing your new computer for music then there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Linux or Windows based PC. I am pretty much nuts over Ableton Live so, Linux would be out of the question for me.
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 9:11 AMGarage band is a great li'l program, but it has its limitations. To go big, I'd suggest moving on pretty fast from GB to a full featured DAW when able to. The plus side is I think that GB comes w/ Macs for free still. Anyone confirm that?
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 9:14 AMDon, you're using Live? The only trouble I've had is slow loads, but I'm on a bit older of a machine and was just wondering what trouble you get from your Mac. I know that you are a proficient user, I'm just curious. -
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Wed, March 26, 2008 - 8:38 PMI use an external HD for all of my loops and when I use Live in a live situation I have all of my songs in a single set to get around the slow load issue. My G4 Powerbook is pretty long in the tooth and, it will bog down even with frozen tracks so I will often commit and render to disc tracks with virtual synths with plugs or even just record them to another track while fiddling with a parameter or two. Everything is a workaround for me but it gets easier after you just bite the bullet and concentrate on what your mac CAN do as opposed to what it can't.
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Re: Help! Linux (gnome) vs Windows vs Mac
Thu, March 27, 2008 - 3:46 PMHi Dave,
I use all three for various aspects of media. IMHO:
Linux: least expensive but least supported. A lack of accelerated video drivers and incomplete applications, you'll need to get into the O.S. side of things to get what you need out of it. It's great for communications and office work as it's mostly impervious to virus' and the like.
Windoze: higher costs than Linux (if you care about staying legal that is), runs on common PC hardware that's less expensive than Mac and also not as reliable. There's more apps available than all the other platforms put together and more open source software every day. Windoze 2k and XP are pretty stable, but I akin running a Windoze or Linux machine to having an older car: if you're a mechanic by nature then it's Ok. If not, it can be a real pain in the a$$, the worst problems seem to appear when you have time constraints.
Apple: Highest cost and quality of all. A smaller selection of apps, but the ones available generally work well. If you don't want to spend a lot of time messin' around under the hood and just wanna get to work, well, there's a reason many creators go Mac.
Mac Mini - lowest cost mac, the 2.5" form factor HDD limits you to about 160gb internally. Those smaller drives usually have less cache and are limited to 5400 RPMs. Access to external HDD's is over USB or Firewire, and there's a performance hit for doing that. There's no expansion slots and video memory is shared system memory. This machine will do you just fine with GB but you may find it limiting later down the road if you gt into bigger apps.
iMac - similar limitations to the mini and tricky to get inside, you might wanna order this one with extra RAM so you don't have to deal with the high cost and warranty violations of DIY. Nice space saver and a great display.
Mac Pro - This machine kicks much ass, there's plenty of bays and slots to expand until your bank account is dry. One of these could be a longer term investment, they can also run Windoze in parallel or by itself and often better than PC's do. They're expensive, but very good machines.
Always a trade-off.