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I can only afford one of these synth programs and I'm wondering if anyone here has experience with one or both and could offer some comments - are the sounds geared to certain genres? is the interface intuitive? how is the learning curve?
i want non-cheesy, beautiful pads, and quirky, strange textures.
thank you!
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Thu, November 27, 2008 - 6:23 AMHaven't tried omnishere, but I have absynth, and I don't love it for it's pads.
I really like the Cameleon 5000 (It's some kind of variation on the Kawai K5000 series, which I love). A little thin at times, but so harmonic and blissful.
FM8 is a pleasure too.
Hope you find your dream come true!
>Adam
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Thu, November 27, 2008 - 1:55 PMif you are buying then buy omnisphere.
absynth, you can "find" and try.
omnisphere you can "find" too but i heard you need 40g free on your hard drive to get it working.
might as well buy it since ppl say its worth it. supposedly its groundbreaking, and absynth is old anyway.
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 12:33 PMi don't know omnisphere - absynth is beautiful as fuck, but if you can manage to develop patches for it without invoking divine intervention, then you're a better man than i. if you're not into the intellectual-property-infringement game, it might not be a viable option, because the only way i've been able to use it is to grab as many presets as i can and look for the handful that i might want to use. -
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Fri, November 28, 2008 - 9:13 PMthanks for the posts. : )
kage - I'm a bit confused. Are you saying that it is an infringement of intellectual property rights to use absynth's presets in your tracks? -
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Tue, December 2, 2008 - 5:07 PMha - no, what i meant was that in my experience, in order to find presets that you like, you need to look through a greater number than you would reasonably buy. i.e. you need to download patch banks without having a license to do so, find the ones you like, then buy them if you want :) -
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Tue, December 9, 2008 - 1:06 PMAny synth that you need to search for presets for is not a good synth!
Seriously, a good synth should make it fun and easy to engineer your own sounds. I am not a fan of Absynth, I think there are many other better softsynths out there.
I would love to hear someone give a full review of Omnisphere. All I know is that I am a huge Stylus RMX fan and Spectrasonics makes great software.
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Tue, December 9, 2008 - 2:02 PMI hear what you are saying, troy, but I'm not sure I agree 100% with your conclusion.
The way I see it is that every preset is an instrument. It has a timbre that may or may not change over time and it can be used to create
different kinds of effects, harmonically, melodically, timbrally, rhythmically and emotionally.
In this way, every single synth patch, whether you like them or not, are exactly akin to an existing acoustic instrument, like a piano
or a 12 string acoustic guitar: Different things can be accomplished with them, musically and some instruments are vastly more complex
than others (think the difference between a jaw harp and a stradivarius violin).
Now, I am probably more in your school in that I try to make every single piece of sound design on my CD recordings be unique.
I do that , like you, because it pleases me and I like to think that I'm trying to innovate sonically, but there is still a lot of room
in the musical world for someone who only plays accordian (and in a very conventional way)..............or, by the same token, someone
who just uses Absynth patches.
Granted , it may be harder to innovate if one only uses presets on popular soft synths, but not all music is about innovation.
Frequently, music is just about the expression of emotions and thoughts.
There is room for your approach and there is room for people who use only Absynth presets in their music.
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Wed, December 10, 2008 - 12:16 PM
Great post Rick - sound, non-dualistic assessement of this much-debated topic.
I now feel more clear on the subject. Thanks for shedding your light, in this musically rhythmic combination of letters.
p.s. a brilliant accordionist was over the other night playing traditional songs with a lively smile that frequently became a giggle as he tickled himself with the thrill of playing. it occurred to me that an instrument is perhaps more a resonator for a center (a feeling we express) than something that is essentially effective, ineffective, interesting, or not in and of itself. -
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Mon, December 22, 2008 - 2:30 PMLittle late to chime in here, but I'm also not thrilled w/ Absynth. Making a patch is not nearly intuitive. Some of the patches are pretty amazing but the creating process leaves a lot to be desired. I thumb it down for creation, but up for using preformatted patches.
What I really dig right now and prolly always is Massive. Also made by NI. It's a CPU hog, but it is a great tool and much more intuitive.
Also interested in that other soft synth.
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Fri, January 9, 2009 - 10:10 AMi love the diversity and richness of sound with NI's massive. for many reasons it wins out for me. -
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Fri, January 9, 2009 - 11:33 AMI just can't bring myself to buy Omnisphere.. just sounds too cold and digital and generic to me. I will stick with my modular gear.
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Re: omnisphere / absynth comparison
Sat, January 10, 2009 - 3:06 PMOmnisphere is a fantastic and beautiful instrument. There are ridiculous modulation and layering options. All the root samples are pristine. Everything is intuitively laid out. I hightly recommend it.
I agree about absynth. I love it for pads and atmospheres, but I hate programing it. I just haven't been motivated to put in the time to learn it.
Massive is massive!
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